Read the following two articles. One and two. What is the difference between the two situations? What is the problem with the Libyan approach? What advice would give President Obama what action if any we should take in respect to both countries? If you were to look in your crystal ball what future do you see for the two respective countries?
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Amaury Avalos
2/23/2011 12:57:05 pm
The biggest difference between Libya and Bahrain is the use of violence in Libya and the peace of Bahrain. In Libya, Gadahfi has called his followers to go against the revolutionaries, all of which are his people. He doesn’t care for a civil war as long as he has support and maintains power. This has resulted in militias going around towns and cities killing non-supporters due to Gadahfi’s lack of military strength. People fear genocide of the Libyan people who oppose the government. Meanwhile, in Bahrain there are peaceful marches with simple flag waiving instead of gun shooting. All the people in Bahrain have come together to overthrow their current government in favor of a democratic government. All the Libyan people want is Gadahfi gone, but they are not unified and aren’t sure what they’re fighting for.
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Claudia Ramirez
2/24/2011 03:30:32 am
The most immense differnce between the two situations are that in Libya they are using much violence to try and stop the protests towards the government and in Bahrain they are more peaceful about it. Gadahfi does not care much what goes on and is worried about maintaining power over the rest, and does not necceraly care if a civil war were to happen. The protests are still going on and the governement is trying to see what they can do, because the people want to rule Bahrain. AS long as in Lybia has Gadahfi in power and his supporters shooting will continue to those nonsupporters, comparing Bahrain where the protests are simple and there is no violence used against the protesters.
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Ilce Saldivar
2/24/2011 03:47:09 am
In Libya, they are pushing to end their violence and wanting to win their glory. Gadahfi isnt really doing much to stop anything, he is mostly trying to keep himself in power and people are fighting. This could easily cause a war and end with peoples lives. Gadahfi is a criminal and isnt doing anything to stop this issue. He has already had people dying these past few days and the city is becoming a mess. he is sending out youths to fight and destroy police and goverment buildings.On thew other hand, Bahrain is more controlled and settled. The people want a new goverment and want to rule. They are being descriminate when it comes down to homes and jobs for them. They are more united in between the people and are trying to over take the goverment themselves, without having to do with guns and war. I dont think Obama should have to help out with this or anything, because it doesnt really have alot to do with us or also because it could put the us in serious problems with other countries or get involved in this situation. In the future i see Bahrain solving their problem and having the people ruling, in a good manner. In Lybia, i think the issue will still be occuring unless someone over rules Gadahfi.
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Melani Whitley
2/24/2011 05:24:14 am
The difference between Libya and Bahrain, is that Libya is using violence and Bahrain is having peace marches. In Libya, the leader Gadahfi, is calling all his followers to go against the protestors. The people who are not following him are being killed. Many of the people of Libya fear genocide soon. Many of these people just want Gadahfi gone. In Bahrain, the people are marching through the streets, waving flags and asking for peace. They want to come together and overthrow their government in favor of democracy.
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Kaylie Talbott
2/24/2011 05:51:21 am
After reading the articles, I would advice Obama to help the people of Bahrain in their attempt at democracy. I would also recommend that he talk to the people of Libya, and help them realize that violence isn't always the answer. They need to recognize the consequences that will come with their actions. Yes, Gadahfi needs to go, but I'm sure there are other ways to get rid of him.
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Diana Rios
2/24/2011 05:54:02 am
the difference between libya and bahrian is libya is using violence and the people that are not following him are being killed, and bahrain is not they are trying to have peace marches. My adice to Obama is to help out the people in libya and stop all the bad things that are happening.
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Shelby Zumwalt
2/24/2011 10:08:51 am
The differece between Libya and Bahrian is that Libya is using violence and Bahrian is trying to organize a peace march. Libya's leader, Gadhafi was telling all of his supporters to "strike back against the protesters" and having the rest of the people that aren't his supporters killed in the streets. Many of the people in Libya want Gadhafi gone and are are panicking that there will be a genocide. Unlike Libya, Bahrian's people are marching through the streets wanting peace. They are coming together to overthrow the government and in the support of a democracy.
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Chris Borges
2/24/2011 10:42:41 am
The obvious difference between the two situations is how Libya is taking a violent approach to protesting, and Bahrain is settling things in a more peaceful manner. Libyan leader, Gadhafi, was outraged at the protests and told all of his followers to "get out of [their] homes and fill the streets." he told them to attack all of the non followers. Because of this, there is an almost civil war in progress in Libya. Like Libya, a political protest is under way in Bahrain, however, instead of running through the streets with guns, Bahraini people are using flags in hopes of turning there government into a democratic one. I think the situation in Libya is totally out of control and is going to need some help possibly from President Obama or the United Nations. The protest in Bahrain is quite opposite, and doesn't seem to need any help at all. In fact it is great to see a country peacefully protest and get away with it. My Chrystal ball is telling me that that the Bahrain future looks bright, and Libyan future (hopefully will also be bright) is looking like they will need some help to settle their differences.
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yanet tobon
2/24/2011 10:50:46 am
Violence is never the answer to fix any situation, and thats what libya is doing to stop the protesters. People that dont follow their leader Gadahfi are being killed. While Bahrain protests peacefully with marches and flags.They want to come together and work together. President Obama should help Bahrain,and to over throw Gadahfi. the people have the right to a peaceful country.And with him as the leader it will only lead to a war.
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Gabe Carlin
2/24/2011 11:17:04 am
Their are some major differences between Libya and Bahrain. In economic terms, Bahrain is doing much better with a GDP per capita at 27,000 and Libya being only at 14,000. Also, Libya is in Northern Africa and Bahrain slightly North East of Saudi Arabia. Libya uses primarily acts of violence in the protesting, such as rioting and break windows, throwing shoes, etc. Whereas Bahrain is resorting to the "Ghandi Approach" the peaceful protests, you know signs and flags, and agree to arrests, that kind of stuff. However, the both have "corrupt" government Bahrain with a "Constitutional" Monarchy but the corrupt ruler Hamad ibn Isa Al Khalifa and Libya with a (Socialist?) I am not entirely sure if you can call it a socialist, run by Muammar al-Gaddafi. And they both a change. Some people want a democracy some people just want a "non-corrupt" leader, but they don't want the present leader ruling the same way they are.
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Noemi Plaza-Sanchez
2/24/2011 11:56:47 am
The situations in Libya and Bahrain are most distinguishable in the response the government is taking to the political upheaval. While the protesters in Bahrain have been met with much opposition and even some violence from the monarchy, the response does not approach the ferocity of Lybian president Gadhafi, who has practically "declared war on his own people." The most obvious issue with the Libyan approach is that the government seems to have altogether forsaken its people and forgotten that its main purpose is to protect its population. Instead, Gadhafi will at all coasts crush any opposition to his rule, destroying his nation and murdering his people with the aid of foreign mercenaries.
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Julia Smith
2/24/2011 01:23:59 pm
The difference between Libya and Bahrain is that Libya is taking a more violent apporach while Bahrain is being very peaceful. What is wrong with the Libyan approach is that Gadhafi is getting his followers to kill anyone who opposes his ideas. I think that Obama needs to try and help Libya by trying to get Gadhafi to step down as a leader, though I think that will be a very hard task to take out considering how much Gadhafi likes being in power. In the case of Bahrain, they are definitely a more peaceful nation and I don't feel that anything too tragic would happen. This means that Obama shouldn't take as much of an action becuase they will probably work everything out in a peaceful manner. For the future, I see the Libyan people needing help or else there might be some problems, while in Bahrain I think they will figure everything out with little to no help.
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Ben Raymond
2/24/2011 01:36:38 pm
Generally the biggest difference between the two is that protesting isn't nearly as violent in Bahrain, while in Libya the protests have been pretty violent. Also in Libya, as one guy in the article said, Gadhafi has told his supporters to go out and kill those who are part of the revolution. In Bahrain the protesters seem to be trying to form a democratic government and give more power to the people, and in Libya they seem to just want the leader out. Also, I don't know for sure but it seems like the Bahrain conflict is more because the prime minister isn't sunni and most of the protesters are, and the Libya protesting is because the leader isn't too nice of a guy.
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Ben Raymond
2/24/2011 01:43:50 pm
Oh and would recommend to Obama that he should just wait for things to simmer down and for people to get their own stuff together. We have a presence in way too many countries, and Libya at least won't be that useful to be invested in. We could maybe help out in Bahrain, since the new government would probably cooperate more, and we obviously need more friends in the middle east. I expect Libya to remain in conflict for either quite a while or at least end violently, and in Bahrain there will be either some compromise or the people will just forget about it. For some reason the leader of Libya seems to value staying the leader over staying alive.
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Dominique Stall
2/24/2011 02:54:27 pm
The biggest difference between Libya and Bahrain is the responses of the leaders to the protesting. In Libya, Gadhafi is using extreme violence to try to control the protesters, while in Bahrain it seems that little violence is being used against the protesters. Gadhafi’s approach is extremely unreasonable, it seems that he is very angry flailing his arms, and raising his voice in interviews, I, personally, would not want to get on his bad side. The fact that he is telling his supporters to fill the streets and fight the ones that are protesting is extremely degrading towards his authority; his actions will undoubtedly be beginning of a Civil war in Libya. A Civil war would be devastating, as we have seen in our own history, and in past years in Sudan, a civil war is never healthy for a country. In comparison to what is happening in Libya, Bahrain is handling the protesting situation in a much more united manner. There is no separation of supporters and non-supporters; in fact, the protesters themselves exclaim their unity in their chants. If I were to give President Obama advice, I would tell him to help Libya first because I think their relations with one another are in a detrimental state. I think the best solution would be to rid of Gadhafi as a leader, but that may not be the most reasonable response considering his supporters are already in a mode of violence, and they could easily have the potential to retaliate. The best thing the U.S. could do for Libya would be to neutralize relations amongst the people in Libya in order to diminish the chances of an unwanted civil war.
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Zac alfaro
2/24/2011 03:07:38 pm
the differences in Libya and Bahrain is the types of protesting control they are using. in Libya the leader is using lots of violence to control the protesters, but violence never works in protesting situations. so it ends up a punch for a punch, so protesting is a lot more crazy. but in Bahrain its more civil and more structured protest that wants a new type of gov unlike libya where they just want the leader out. i think United States should stay out of this because if the wrong side loses or wins we could be in trouble, and end up in another war.
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Logan Santillano
2/24/2011 03:13:49 pm
The biggest difference between Lybia and Bahrain is the way that their handling the situation. Lybia is approaching it with a more violent approach why Bahrain is approaching it in a more peaceful way. The problem with Lybia's approach is that Gadahfi doesn't care who dies as long as he stays in power. Lybia has turned into a war zone with militia attacking protestors and inicent people to keep them quiet. While in Bahrain they handle it the peaceful way, having thousands of people come together to try and get what they want with out shedding blood.
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Skylar Shea
2/25/2011 05:33:44 am
The obvious difference between these two situations is the way each government is handling the recent protests. Lybia is responding maliciously, while Bahrain is trying to respond in a more civil, democratic manner. The Lybian approach violates basic human rights and some are even saying a genocide is beginning. My advice to President Obama would be to stay out of each situation unless they worsen to a point at which the U.S. is effected. I don't think unnecessary meddling would have any benefits. Looking into my crystal ball, I see Bahrain having a much more succesful revolution than Lybia.
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Skylar Shea
2/25/2011 05:35:02 am
Libya******
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Malin Armstead
3/1/2011 06:54:08 am
A difference with these two situations is the way the government is dealing with the actions of the protesters. Libya seems to be responding "well" and reserved compared to Bahrain who just seems to be causing a bloody mess. In my opinion, obama along with the united states should not involve our selfs with either of there businesses. In the future i would i hope that they work out there countries issues because it doesn't settle well with the whole idea of "world peace"
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Carol Taege
3/1/2011 10:28:58 am
The difference between the two are that Libya is using violence and Gadhafi has resulted to using his supporters to just kill off those who do not support him as apposed to Bahrain, using a more peaceful approach and protesting for peace. The biggest problem with Libya's approach is that there is no trust with in the people and Gadhafi, the people fear that his way of dealing with it will eventually lead to a genocide when the majority of the people just want him gone. Bahrain's people on the other hand are all coming together to overthrow the government and if Libya would take this approach and work together it would just help the situation become more unified as apposed to such madness and chaos. If i could give Obama advice it would be to try to get rid of Gadhafi before it leads to a civil war. My crystal ball tells me that Bahrain has a better and brighter future ahead of them because of the way they approached the situation. Unfortunately at this rate i see Libya having a not so bright future, but they should really consider coming to some sort of a mutual agreement so things don't get worse than they already are.
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Stefan Ouellette
3/1/2011 01:50:59 pm
The difference between the two situations is that the Lybian people are fed up with Gadahlfi and are having wars in the streets with mercenaries. its a bloodbath! He has ordered people into the streets to fight the brainwashed and drugged up protestors. While the people of Bahrain have their list of things they want from the government such as a constitutional monarchy. The people have shown that they are reasonable and serious by uniting Sunnis and Shiites while protesting claiming they are one with Bahrain. The Libyan approach is just chaos and fighting and in the end no one will be completely satisfied, because too many lives have been lost. My advice to Obama is stay away from this until it has dramatically settled. We have problems of our own but we are in no position to go in and mediate the situation. At most we should send some relief help a long with the rest of the UN after the violence has settled and some sort of order has been established. In my crystal ball i see a change of leader for Libya, but he may not be the ideal candidate. As for Bahrain I see a simmiler situation to Libya but more civil and more rational thinking.
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Ricardo Segura
3/3/2011 12:24:20 pm
The greatest difference between Libya and Bahrain is their course of action. In Libya Gadahfi is calling for his supporters to fight the protesters, while in Bahrain every thing is much more peaceful. Gadahfi is essentially causing a civil war in Libya. This is a problem because many people are fighting without knowing what they're fighting for. Most importantly the Libyan people want to get rid of Gadahfi but they aren't united in their cause. On the other hand the people of Bahrain seem to be more united and most importantly peaceful and focused on their goal of obtaining a democratic form of government. My advice to president Obama would be that he push for intervenence in Libya because Gadahfi doesn't care what he has to do to maintain power and control and that he needs to be stopped before he does something that the rest of the world will regret because they did nothing to help. In the future I see Libya becoming more violent, destructive, and seperated; which will make it extremely difficult to reunite and reconcile its people unless some other county intervenes, and Bahrain achieving their goals through more passive means.
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Colby Benge
3/3/2011 01:19:28 pm
The difference between Libya and Bahrain is that Libya is at war with its government and Bahrain is working to fix it. The problem in Libya is that Gadahfi is killing his people plain and simple and you cant expect to fix problems by having militiamen kill innocent people. while on the other hand the people of Bahrain are fighting in a more peaceful approach taking it to the streets and protesting to have its royal family in power to resign, so that they can have a democratic government. As for my Crystal ball its telling me Libya has a long way to go before they will have any real control over there situation, as for Bahrain they seem to be on the right track through the peaceful protest and probably will get more accomplished that way even if it doesn't go exactly as they plan
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Julian Carson
3/3/2011 01:27:12 pm
In Libya Gadahfi has responded to the protests by calling in his supporters to take violent action against them. While this rule by fear may work for a time, he has alienated his people which has not only gotten rid of any chance of negotiations, but has utterly destroyed any semblance of legitimacy that he might have had. I believe that ultimately, the will of the people will overcome his violent rule and establish a new government. In Bahrain, the government has not responded to the peaceful protests with overwhelming violence, rather they even have agreed to open negotiations with the protesters. I believe that the country of Bahrain will have some form of constitutional monarchy similar to that of England's. I would advise President Obama to advise the leaders of these countries to listen to the will of the people and be willing to start some form of dialogue so that they can work towards peaceful, non-violent negotiations.
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Rebecca Connolly
3/4/2011 11:17:05 am
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